1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:38,640 [Music] 2 00:00:42,460 --> 00:00:40,780 welcome to the skinwalker debrief I'm 3 00:00:44,410 --> 00:00:42,470 your host TJ Ella and I'm also one of 4 00:00:46,450 --> 00:00:44,420 the executive producers of the new TV 5 00:00:47,380 --> 00:00:46,460 series on history called the secret of 6 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:47,390 skinwalker ranch 7 00:00:51,730 --> 00:00:49,730 I'm joyed each week by Jason McCullen 8 00:00:54,310 --> 00:00:51,740 and Marine Ellsbury and together we'll 9 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:54,320 dissect each episode of the series and 10 00:00:58,240 --> 00:00:56,330 bring you some behind-the-scenes look 11 00:01:00,550 --> 00:00:58,250 tat stuff the more information and a 12 00:01:02,979 --> 00:01:00,560 little bit more insight so you can feel 13 00:01:05,460 --> 00:01:02,989 jealous like to be at the ranch or not 14 00:01:07,630 --> 00:01:05,470 I'd love you want to be there but anyway 15 00:01:09,460 --> 00:01:07,640 Jason's been exploring all the strange 16 00:01:12,010 --> 00:01:09,470 for more than a decade he's appeared on 17 00:01:14,859 --> 00:01:12,020 that geo sci-fi history and is the 18 00:01:16,530 --> 00:01:14,869 author of only weirdos see UFOs in 19 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:16,540 introduction to the public's 20 00:01:20,859 --> 00:01:18,650 misperception of unidentified aerial 21 00:01:22,990 --> 00:01:20,869 phenomenon and extraterrestrial life 22 00:01:24,820 --> 00:01:23,000 Green is a journalist research and 23 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:24,830 podcaster specializing in the anomalous 24 00:01:29,020 --> 00:01:26,930 she started a docu-series uncovering 25 00:01:30,969 --> 00:01:29,030 aliens on Animal Planet and served as 26 00:01:34,749 --> 00:01:30,979 the ambassador for science channels are 27 00:01:37,210 --> 00:01:34,759 real own initiative so this week these 28 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:37,220 two are gonna help me like every week go 29 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:39,170 through the latest episode of the 30 00:01:43,990 --> 00:01:42,290 secretive skinwalker ranch now this 31 00:01:46,870 --> 00:01:44,000 week's episode is called night visions 32 00:01:48,670 --> 00:01:46,880 and I guess it's kind of you know 33 00:01:50,500 --> 00:01:48,680 self-explanatory it's night vision so 34 00:01:52,149 --> 00:01:50,510 it's gonna be you're gonna see the stuff 35 00:01:55,090 --> 00:01:52,159 they're gonna see at night and a bunch 36 00:01:56,710 --> 00:01:55,100 of other things so I don't know where we 37 00:01:59,560 --> 00:01:56,720 should pick this up how you guys want to 38 00:02:01,990 --> 00:01:59,570 discuss this but I'm thinking the best 39 00:02:04,870 --> 00:02:02,000 way would be to talk about you know 40 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:04,880 start at the beginning you know they 41 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:06,530 recapped in the beginning of the episode 42 00:02:12,130 --> 00:02:08,890 you know episode starts and they recap 43 00:02:13,630 --> 00:02:12,140 what happened when last week you know 44 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:13,640 bad things happen when you dig the first 45 00:02:20,229 --> 00:02:16,130 episode and they left us with the 46 00:02:24,039 --> 00:02:20,239 cliffhanger the case is a case yes 47 00:02:25,870 --> 00:02:24,049 what's in the case how many times did 48 00:02:29,620 --> 00:02:25,880 you see that mean was in the box with 49 00:02:32,020 --> 00:02:29,630 bread for the week so come on you guys 50 00:02:34,420 --> 00:02:32,030 tell me what like what did you think was 51 00:02:36,670 --> 00:02:34,430 in the case and what was your reactions 52 00:02:38,500 --> 00:02:36,680 when you saw what actually when you 53 00:02:41,210 --> 00:02:38,510 opened it up and what it really was okay 54 00:02:44,450 --> 00:02:41,220 so when I meant 55 00:02:48,290 --> 00:02:44,460 and my thoughts on what might be in the 56 00:02:51,110 --> 00:02:48,300 case last weekend your mic cut out I had 57 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:51,120 said that I thought it was probably some 58 00:02:58,610 --> 00:02:56,130 sort of anomalous metal and and it 59 00:03:03,770 --> 00:02:58,620 appears that is what it actually is 60 00:03:07,700 --> 00:03:03,780 however I as we discussed previous to 61 00:03:10,430 --> 00:03:07,710 this recording did not realize that what 62 00:03:14,270 --> 00:03:10,440 was in the box was displayed as as the 63 00:03:18,940 --> 00:03:14,280 magnet that was been in the intro scene 64 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:18,950 so for me it kind of went over my head I 65 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:24,810 I think I don't understand it quite yet 66 00:03:31,790 --> 00:03:29,130 of why that was in a super secure 67 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:31,800 location and where it was found and why 68 00:03:39,260 --> 00:03:35,130 it was pushed that way so I would love 69 00:03:41,090 --> 00:03:39,270 feedback on that nice um Jason what did 70 00:03:44,510 --> 00:03:41,100 you think when when the case was opened 71 00:03:46,550 --> 00:03:44,520 and we saw the magnet you know of course 72 00:03:49,670 --> 00:03:46,560 I as they were talking I was thinking 73 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:49,680 hmm perhaps there's a really strong 74 00:03:53,449 --> 00:03:51,690 magnet in the case but then we saw the 75 00:03:55,750 --> 00:03:53,459 magnet I thought there must be something 76 00:03:59,330 --> 00:03:55,760 else under the magnet because that's 77 00:04:01,640 --> 00:03:59,340 come or it's just a round magnet in this 78 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:01,650 Pelican case why is it under Pelican 79 00:04:05,900 --> 00:04:03,330 case and why is this why does this 80 00:04:08,449 --> 00:04:05,910 change every you you have a very big 81 00:04:10,490 --> 00:04:08,459 problem with Pelican cases last week you 82 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:10,500 were like I don't understand that's my 83 00:04:18,530 --> 00:04:15,450 problem with it I guess what is it with 84 00:04:20,090 --> 00:04:18,540 Pelican cases man well Pelican cases I 85 00:04:23,450 --> 00:04:20,100 think they're just they should be used 86 00:04:25,790 --> 00:04:23,460 for certain things at first I don't I 87 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:25,800 don't know it's not like helican cases 88 00:04:30,469 --> 00:04:27,930 is shielding anything from from the 89 00:04:32,390 --> 00:04:30,479 magnet either so see you know we should 90 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:32,400 probably asked Eric I wonder if he did 91 00:04:36,830 --> 00:04:35,370 have it lined with something no why was 92 00:04:39,530 --> 00:04:36,840 it in that Pelican case I mean maybe he 93 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:39,540 did um I can always go for storing 94 00:04:44,630 --> 00:04:41,010 everything though so I'm they are 95 00:04:47,690 --> 00:04:44,640 looking really cool so what's really 96 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:47,700 interesting about that that magnet you 97 00:04:52,370 --> 00:04:50,010 know that has always been one of the 98 00:04:54,230 --> 00:04:52,380 things that they've noticed you know the 99 00:04:54,860 --> 00:04:54,240 electromagnetic energy that's on their 100 00:04:56,750 --> 00:04:54,870 ranch 101 00:04:58,370 --> 00:04:56,760 I mean an Eric goes into that a little 102 00:05:00,740 --> 00:04:58,380 bit about he thinks there could be 103 00:05:05,390 --> 00:05:00,750 something generating that underneath I 104 00:05:09,770 --> 00:05:05,400 meet the ranch now the funny story I 105 00:05:13,580 --> 00:05:09,780 believe one of the phones on it on the 106 00:05:15,860 --> 00:05:13,590 table was mine my old phone because 107 00:05:18,409 --> 00:05:15,870 while I was out there that happened to 108 00:05:21,260 --> 00:05:18,419 my phone my phone bricked battery died 109 00:05:25,670 --> 00:05:21,270 called screen turned pink at first this 110 00:05:29,300 --> 00:05:25,680 is was my old Galaxy s8 the screen 111 00:05:31,550 --> 00:05:29,310 turned pink and no idea why I kept doing 112 00:05:32,570 --> 00:05:31,560 it and then my battery died at one point 113 00:05:36,170 --> 00:05:32,580 and that was it 114 00:05:39,140 --> 00:05:36,180 couldn't get it back on we charged it we 115 00:05:41,780 --> 00:05:39,150 tried everything and then he took it 116 00:05:43,190 --> 00:05:41,790 apart in about four months it took in 117 00:05:45,650 --> 00:05:43,200 the jump started and he got it going 118 00:05:48,620 --> 00:05:45,660 again but he you know was telling me how 119 00:05:50,030 --> 00:05:48,630 it was super so fried and he was asking 120 00:05:51,730 --> 00:05:50,040 me if I could put it in a microwave and 121 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:51,740 that's my hell's this ridiculous stuff 122 00:05:55,969 --> 00:05:54,450 but now I think he you know when he 123 00:05:57,950 --> 00:05:55,979 pulled that magnet on it was like ah 124 00:06:00,740 --> 00:05:57,960 because he had always theorized that 125 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:00,750 there was something you know there was 126 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:03,210 some kind of magnetism affecting things 127 00:06:07,730 --> 00:06:04,650 on the ranch which would explain a lot 128 00:06:09,650 --> 00:06:07,740 of the phenomenon like film being erased 129 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:09,660 in the past you know I mean that was a 130 00:06:13,790 --> 00:06:11,250 big thing people would always lose 131 00:06:15,350 --> 00:06:13,800 footage well you know if you had it's 132 00:06:16,700 --> 00:06:15,360 kind of like the old devices that you 133 00:06:19,190 --> 00:06:16,710 were taking the blockbuster you know you 134 00:06:20,990 --> 00:06:19,200 go over the tapes the magnets eternally 135 00:06:23,210 --> 00:06:21,000 plug it in turn on the magnet and erase 136 00:06:26,270 --> 00:06:23,220 the tapes well I guess that had happened 137 00:06:30,770 --> 00:06:26,280 to a lot of people over the years so at 138 00:06:32,810 --> 00:06:30,780 at on the ranch and yeah so and one of 139 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:32,820 the things that 11th I saw on Twitter a 140 00:06:37,129 --> 00:06:35,130 lot were people asking why no digging 141 00:06:38,900 --> 00:06:37,139 right I mean well I mean just we can go 142 00:06:43,219 --> 00:06:38,910 you know talk about that for three hours 143 00:06:47,210 --> 00:06:43,229 but Eric from my conversations with him 144 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:47,220 is very he's very committed to doing 145 00:06:51,529 --> 00:06:49,770 observational science so he does not 146 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:51,539 want to disturb anything he wants to be 147 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:53,970 quiet and watch that's kind of the way 148 00:06:57,590 --> 00:06:55,530 he wanted to approach things watch and 149 00:07:01,070 --> 00:06:57,600 record watch and record so that's why 150 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:01,080 any you know he lays it out pretty 151 00:07:05,630 --> 00:07:04,050 pretty pretty well for everyone but it's 152 00:07:07,540 --> 00:07:05,640 hard for people to understand like 153 00:07:10,390 --> 00:07:07,550 observational science isn't a sexy 154 00:07:11,050 --> 00:07:10,400 it's not you know necessarily doing cool 155 00:07:13,930 --> 00:07:11,060 stuff 156 00:07:17,830 --> 00:07:13,940 it's literally sitting and watching for 157 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:17,840 a long time and hoping that's something 158 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:20,810 you can something so that was kind of 159 00:07:26,050 --> 00:07:22,610 where uh you know his head was at the 160 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:26,060 time and I think you know I think Brian 161 00:07:30,250 --> 00:07:28,490 I'm gonna laid it out like look when you 162 00:07:32,890 --> 00:07:30,260 can't dig there's you know there are 163 00:07:34,390 --> 00:07:32,900 risk factors here and let's just exhaust 164 00:07:36,340 --> 00:07:34,400 all these options first but I think we 165 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:36,350 can do above the ground before you know 166 00:07:41,500 --> 00:07:38,090 we were doing thing and so I'm glad to 167 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:41,510 see that you know he kind of went that 168 00:07:45,130 --> 00:07:43,010 way as opposed to people just all of a 169 00:07:50,260 --> 00:07:45,140 sudden pulling out shovels and digging 170 00:07:55,540 --> 00:07:50,270 you know you know yeah I think that's a 171 00:07:57,580 --> 00:07:55,550 very wise point Jason and I happen to be 172 00:08:02,140 --> 00:07:57,590 able to talk to our friend who is an 173 00:08:05,230 --> 00:08:02,150 inner disciplinary scientist geologist 174 00:08:06,940 --> 00:08:05,240 basically recently and we kind of he 175 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:06,950 actually used to work for a big low 176 00:08:12,370 --> 00:08:09,010 aerospace so it's kind of a weird time 177 00:08:15,700 --> 00:08:12,380 however we asked him about his thoughts 178 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:15,710 on the geology of the ranch and what's 179 00:08:21,850 --> 00:08:17,570 going on there and it was kind of 180 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:21,860 interesting because I mean we first we 181 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:25,250 projected the idea of you know when when 182 00:08:32,530 --> 00:08:28,130 we looked at Episode one we had that the 183 00:08:35,290 --> 00:08:32,540 ranch lit up on the ridge yeah he was 184 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:35,300 talking about different heat and mineral 185 00:08:42,580 --> 00:08:38,090 things that maybe could attribute to 186 00:08:43,930 --> 00:08:42,590 that but then it got very much more 187 00:08:48,670 --> 00:08:43,940 interesting when we talked about 188 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:48,680 dissecting possible minerals uranium and 189 00:08:54,850 --> 00:08:51,290 poisoning and what would that look like 190 00:08:59,890 --> 00:08:54,860 for bovine life and and for human life 191 00:09:03,670 --> 00:08:59,900 and I think there was no answer however 192 00:09:07,510 --> 00:09:03,680 there was some potential clues that 193 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:07,520 would elicit like the idea that maybe we 194 00:09:14,530 --> 00:09:11,330 should dig in some sort of fashion but 195 00:09:18,680 --> 00:09:14,540 not really dig because this is not 196 00:09:21,110 --> 00:09:18,690 looking good for people Alan so 197 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:21,120 I'm not sure how to accomplish that what 198 00:09:28,220 --> 00:09:24,930 I'm saying is that I feel like geology 199 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:28,230 is a super big clue to everything that's 200 00:09:33,949 --> 00:09:30,569 going on and that we need to figure out 201 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:33,959 the right way to dissect it in that 202 00:09:38,809 --> 00:09:37,170 manner I think that's pretty uh that's 203 00:09:41,389 --> 00:09:38,819 pretty reasonable assumptions I mean 204 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:41,399 those that seems like I think that that 205 00:09:47,470 --> 00:09:44,850 is what people are kind of understanding 206 00:09:49,970 --> 00:09:47,480 it's not the woowoo there's something 207 00:09:51,650 --> 00:09:49,980 actually going on here that they're 208 00:09:53,030 --> 00:09:51,660 going to get to the bottom of it using a 209 00:09:55,309 --> 00:09:53,040 scientific event using the scientific 210 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:55,319 method and as opposed to just people 211 00:10:00,050 --> 00:09:58,050 jumping to conclusions and I loved 212 00:10:02,030 --> 00:10:00,060 watching this progress and unfold 213 00:10:03,740 --> 00:10:02,040 because then we go into you know so that 214 00:10:06,050 --> 00:10:03,750 was our kind of recap of the last 215 00:10:07,579 --> 00:10:06,060 episode and now we're into night visions 216 00:10:10,819 --> 00:10:07,589 which is a current episode and you know 217 00:10:13,730 --> 00:10:10,829 it starts right off with you know okay 218 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:13,740 they they are now actually done with the 219 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:15,930 talking and let's get into some action 220 00:10:21,319 --> 00:10:19,170 and right now right away you don't Tom 221 00:10:22,879 --> 00:10:21,329 and Travis are just driving along and 222 00:10:24,290 --> 00:10:22,889 next thing you know they're getting a 223 00:10:26,090 --> 00:10:24,300 call that hey you got to come up here 224 00:10:26,990 --> 00:10:26,100 and see what's going on and it's not 225 00:10:28,670 --> 00:10:27,000 because you have to see something 226 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:28,680 floating in the sky or see something 227 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:31,850 crazy happening it's because something 228 00:10:36,050 --> 00:10:34,050 geological is going on there's some kind 229 00:10:38,660 --> 00:10:36,060 of anomalous thing happening here that 230 00:10:40,999 --> 00:10:38,670 are you know our sensors are picking up 231 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:41,009 it's not people just you know not it's 232 00:10:46,100 --> 00:10:44,130 not like you are a an organic you know 233 00:10:48,110 --> 00:10:46,110 detector it's not like oh I'm getting 234 00:10:50,900 --> 00:10:48,120 goose bumps no we have devices that are 235 00:10:52,249 --> 00:10:50,910 picking these things up and so you know 236 00:10:54,860 --> 00:10:52,259 starts off right away like okay let's 237 00:10:56,929 --> 00:10:54,870 get into the action and I like the fact 238 00:10:58,730 --> 00:10:56,939 that those guys got in and now you have 239 00:11:01,100 --> 00:10:58,740 specialists with tools like what were 240 00:11:03,019 --> 00:11:01,110 your take on on this I mean did you want 241 00:11:04,819 --> 00:11:03,029 to see us any more of this less of this 242 00:11:07,460 --> 00:11:04,829 like how did you feel when you saw them 243 00:11:09,499 --> 00:11:07,470 going into it well I loved it I mean I 244 00:11:12,710 --> 00:11:09,509 you know when Travis suggested that 245 00:11:14,530 --> 00:11:12,720 doing the the the testing over over the 246 00:11:19,009 --> 00:11:14,540 entire ranch you know the whole property 247 00:11:21,139 --> 00:11:19,019 getting the scientific readings you know 248 00:11:22,999 --> 00:11:21,149 that was really exciting that is very 249 00:11:25,639 --> 00:11:23,009 useful information and it gives you you 250 00:11:27,980 --> 00:11:25,649 know a good good baseline and a good 251 00:11:29,329 --> 00:11:27,990 overview of what's happening all over 252 00:11:31,220 --> 00:11:29,339 the ranch I mean I don't even know how 253 00:11:32,780 --> 00:11:31,230 they accomplished that if they even did 254 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:32,790 really 255 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:34,650 everywhere on the ranch I mean you're 256 00:11:38,450 --> 00:11:36,450 talking about 400 plus acres that's a 257 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:38,460 lot of area to cover but I thought that 258 00:11:42,650 --> 00:11:40,530 was rad when they they cited decided to 259 00:11:44,270 --> 00:11:42,660 pull these teams out and go out and get 260 00:11:46,070 --> 00:11:44,280 readings because that's one of the 261 00:11:48,470 --> 00:11:46,080 biggest things and again we saw last 262 00:11:51,830 --> 00:11:48,480 week on the first episode getting 263 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:51,840 unusual spikes you know getting a you 264 00:11:56,330 --> 00:11:53,730 know microwave radiation things like 265 00:11:58,460 --> 00:11:56,340 that too so to go out and test the 266 00:12:00,050 --> 00:11:58,470 entire ranch you know I was really 267 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:00,060 excited when I heard that right from the 268 00:12:03,260 --> 00:12:01,770 start I mean this is what people have 269 00:12:05,690 --> 00:12:03,270 wanted to do forever right this is kind 270 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:05,700 of it Brandon's like he goes big all the 271 00:12:10,670 --> 00:12:07,290 time so Murray what were you gonna say 272 00:12:14,450 --> 00:12:10,680 oh it's just well ate go big or go home 273 00:12:16,790 --> 00:12:14,460 as you were saying for Brandon but yeah 274 00:12:19,670 --> 00:12:16,800 I mean I think I think that's the most 275 00:12:22,700 --> 00:12:19,680 important thing we can do is the more 276 00:12:26,300 --> 00:12:22,710 acreage we can do on the ranch and and 277 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:26,310 testing and and see what sort of aspects 278 00:12:32,210 --> 00:12:29,730 come from that but I also want to stress 279 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:32,220 that it's not just the ranches this area 280 00:12:38,750 --> 00:12:34,770 so it's like the ute reservation in the 281 00:12:42,170 --> 00:12:38,760 surrounding area so what is happening 282 00:12:47,060 --> 00:12:42,180 just in these areas let's test that and 283 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:47,070 so yes going out and trying to sort of 284 00:12:52,670 --> 00:12:50,010 read the meter all over the places is 285 00:12:54,410 --> 00:12:52,680 the best thing we could do and it's 286 00:12:56,030 --> 00:12:54,420 gonna be weird and we don't really know 287 00:12:58,610 --> 00:12:56,040 what's gonna happen but we should least 288 00:12:59,630 --> 00:12:58,620 try right I mean they did a great you 289 00:13:01,880 --> 00:12:59,640 know they gave a little bit of the back 290 00:13:04,970 --> 00:13:01,890 story of you know the the Navajo newts 291 00:13:06,290 --> 00:13:04,980 and the you know the history of the 292 00:13:08,900 --> 00:13:06,300 skinwalker or the legend of the 293 00:13:10,670 --> 00:13:08,910 skinwalker and then Tom starts to talk a 294 00:13:13,850 --> 00:13:10,680 little bit about you know his injuries 295 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:13,860 again and then so this is something I 296 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:15,930 don't I'm not at all familiar with and 297 00:13:21,560 --> 00:13:18,810 have no knowledge of really but they 298 00:13:23,150 --> 00:13:21,570 talks about shadow figures now do you 299 00:13:24,680 --> 00:13:23,160 guys what are your thoughts on these 300 00:13:30,170 --> 00:13:24,690 like what do you know about shadow 301 00:13:33,020 --> 00:13:30,180 figures uh well I mean I measure this 302 00:13:37,190 --> 00:13:33,030 along I teach you up for a big topic but 303 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:37,200 yeah I I'm not gonna pretend like I have 304 00:13:41,030 --> 00:13:39,450 extreme knowledge on shadow figures but 305 00:13:44,270 --> 00:13:41,040 I have written about them in the past 306 00:13:45,780 --> 00:13:44,280 and there is a lot of high in with 307 00:13:49,220 --> 00:13:45,790 shadow figures 308 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:49,230 alleged abduction alien abductions and 309 00:13:59,190 --> 00:13:55,330 sleep paralysis and that's about as far 310 00:14:01,710 --> 00:13:59,200 as I can say of knowing about what 311 00:14:05,460 --> 00:14:01,720 shadow figures are and I know that it's 312 00:14:08,370 --> 00:14:05,470 projected a lot in the ranch and I think 313 00:14:13,050 --> 00:14:08,380 again and this is something that we'd 314 00:14:15,990 --> 00:14:13,060 want to look into in regards to uranium 315 00:14:18,090 --> 00:14:16,000 poisoning and other things to rule out 316 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:18,100 I'm not saying that what people see on 317 00:14:25,110 --> 00:14:21,370 the ranch is false I am saying let's 318 00:14:27,390 --> 00:14:25,120 rule that out because a lot of the 319 00:14:33,510 --> 00:14:27,400 shadow figure in the voices and things 320 00:14:37,380 --> 00:14:33,520 like that could potentially and you know 321 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:37,390 I say that very loosely you related to 322 00:14:43,590 --> 00:14:39,970 some sort of geological thing and if 323 00:14:46,530 --> 00:14:43,600 that is what the case is then we're 324 00:14:48,990 --> 00:14:46,540 looking at a whole different scenario if 325 00:14:53,660 --> 00:14:49,000 it's not then we're looking at something 326 00:14:57,830 --> 00:14:53,670 super anomalous that is happening so um 327 00:15:01,230 --> 00:14:57,840 yeah shadow figures are typically 328 00:15:06,150 --> 00:15:01,240 something that pops up again like I 329 00:15:08,970 --> 00:15:06,160 mentioned with the sleep paralysis issue 330 00:15:11,010 --> 00:15:08,980 so and they will appear in the bedroom 331 00:15:12,630 --> 00:15:11,020 no have there been reports of that on 332 00:15:13,650 --> 00:15:12,640 the ranch in the past like I said is 333 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:13,660 that kind of something that's been 334 00:15:18,210 --> 00:15:14,650 documented in the past 335 00:15:20,250 --> 00:15:18,220 Desiree oh I don't know I died I don't 336 00:15:23,610 --> 00:15:20,260 know I know I've experienced it 337 00:15:26,970 --> 00:15:23,620 personally and I I know other people 338 00:15:28,890 --> 00:15:26,980 that have but okay so you can't just 339 00:15:33,420 --> 00:15:28,900 throw that out there not eggs oh so you 340 00:15:36,090 --> 00:15:33,430 have yeah but I mean it's something I've 341 00:15:40,340 --> 00:15:36,100 researched pretty extensively because I 342 00:15:43,740 --> 00:15:40,350 have dealt with sleep paralysis like 343 00:15:46,380 --> 00:15:43,750 intensely and it's it's a lot of alien 344 00:15:51,150 --> 00:15:46,390 stuff and and shadow figures and things 345 00:15:54,090 --> 00:15:51,160 like that so for me I've a tribute that 346 00:15:57,690 --> 00:15:54,100 to sleep paralysis maybe it's not that 347 00:15:59,130 --> 00:15:57,700 but I like I like to think that because 348 00:16:00,960 --> 00:15:59,140 I 349 00:16:05,519 --> 00:16:00,970 to deal with that Jason what about you 350 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:05,529 you can add to the shadow figure so I 351 00:16:11,460 --> 00:16:08,050 can't point to anything specifically but 352 00:16:13,290 --> 00:16:11,470 I do want to say I do believe that you 353 00:16:14,850 --> 00:16:13,300 know as there are cases of this being 354 00:16:20,610 --> 00:16:14,860 reported on the ranch and in the area 355 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:20,620 but it's also sort of there's a little 356 00:16:26,100 --> 00:16:23,170 bit of the skinwalker lower there as 357 00:16:29,340 --> 00:16:26,110 well you know a skinwalker is described 358 00:16:31,650 --> 00:16:29,350 in in very many ways you know and that 359 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:31,660 the shadow figure goes along with the 360 00:16:36,420 --> 00:16:33,850 the the shape-shifting the changing and 361 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:36,430 as sort of being in a sort of non 362 00:16:42,990 --> 00:16:39,850 defined form and things like that so it 363 00:16:47,190 --> 00:16:43,000 could be attributed to - the skinwalker 364 00:16:50,759 --> 00:16:47,200 phenomenon as well okay um tea tree I 365 00:16:52,650 --> 00:16:50,769 will I will tell you there is this case 366 00:16:55,019 --> 00:16:52,660 and Jason I don't know if you remember 367 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:55,029 this I I don't know if it was clifford 368 00:17:01,530 --> 00:16:57,130 mahooty or one of the other Navajo 369 00:17:05,309 --> 00:17:01,540 Rangers that shared this but they told 370 00:17:08,850 --> 00:17:05,319 the story about driving on the Navajo 371 00:17:13,289 --> 00:17:08,860 reservation in their cart and they had a 372 00:17:15,990 --> 00:17:13,299 skinwalker running fast like some sort 373 00:17:18,329 --> 00:17:16,000 of beast running faster than the car in 374 00:17:21,659 --> 00:17:18,339 the desert in the middle of the night 375 00:17:24,419 --> 00:17:21,669 right next to them and it's a scariest 376 00:17:27,090 --> 00:17:24,429 story I've ever heard in my life and 377 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:27,100 it's super insane and these are credible 378 00:17:34,530 --> 00:17:32,890 like you know officials yeah I remember 379 00:17:36,270 --> 00:17:34,540 who told that story I remember hearing 380 00:17:38,430 --> 00:17:36,280 anyways you remember hearing it it was 381 00:17:43,919 --> 00:17:38,440 probably the Navajo Rangers but I think 382 00:17:46,230 --> 00:17:43,929 that's what it was yeah now the so Tommy 383 00:17:48,659 --> 00:17:46,240 knows he's he's telling me it's about 384 00:17:51,270 --> 00:17:48,669 the the shadow figures and then he goes 385 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:51,280 back into his injury you know gives a 386 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:52,450 little bit gives us a little bit more 387 00:17:58,350 --> 00:17:56,530 insight into his injuries and and then I 388 00:18:00,659 --> 00:17:58,360 don't think it stops him though from 389 00:18:03,270 --> 00:18:00,669 running headfirst into whatever 390 00:18:05,070 --> 00:18:03,280 dangerous thing is happening because 391 00:18:07,230 --> 00:18:05,080 they run right up you know right up the 392 00:18:09,450 --> 00:18:07,240 hill and there's a sinkhole and it's 393 00:18:11,340 --> 00:18:09,460 like hey let's go let's go stick our 394 00:18:12,180 --> 00:18:11,350 heads in there like what's going on in 395 00:18:15,509 --> 00:18:12,190 that thing 396 00:18:17,850 --> 00:18:15,519 so I mean you know - Tom's credit to 397 00:18:19,950 --> 00:18:17,860 Tom's credit it's like this kind of 398 00:18:21,330 --> 00:18:19,960 stuff doesn't really scare him I mean 399 00:18:23,039 --> 00:18:21,340 he's the one who's taking the brunt of 400 00:18:24,360 --> 00:18:23,049 all of this from you know as opposed to 401 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:24,370 anybody else's who's out there right now 402 00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:27,610 and I think that seeing Travis kind of 403 00:18:33,330 --> 00:18:31,120 react when he you know when they do come 404 00:18:35,580 --> 00:18:33,340 up on this thing this not the stink hole 405 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:35,590 the sink hole when they do come up on 406 00:18:40,590 --> 00:18:39,129 the sink hole and Travis has a you know 407 00:18:44,190 --> 00:18:40,600 physical reactions to it I guess it's 408 00:18:45,629 --> 00:18:44,200 it's kind of like okay the viewers are 409 00:18:48,180 --> 00:18:45,639 there watching this and seeing this 410 00:18:50,159 --> 00:18:48,190 happen and knowing that we have 411 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:50,169 measurements that are we have devices 412 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:52,570 that are detecting something and now 413 00:18:58,230 --> 00:18:55,090 he's responding as well but he does 414 00:19:00,930 --> 00:18:58,240 refer them as transient the transient 415 00:19:04,789 --> 00:19:00,940 spikes so it's not like being saying 416 00:19:07,379 --> 00:19:04,799 like he's caught in confined space now 417 00:19:09,629 --> 00:19:07,389 there are a lot of so because Tom does 418 00:19:11,159 --> 00:19:09,639 mention there's a lot of other people 419 00:19:14,009 --> 00:19:11,169 that have experienced this stuff and is 420 00:19:16,169 --> 00:19:14,019 this is it specific to that sinkhole or 421 00:19:18,690 --> 00:19:16,179 is that does that happen in other places 422 00:19:22,499 --> 00:19:18,700 do you guys know have you heard any 423 00:19:24,990 --> 00:19:22,509 anything else like that personally I 424 00:19:27,769 --> 00:19:25,000 think that there's a lot of talk about 425 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:27,779 magnetism and how it affects people's 426 00:19:36,539 --> 00:19:31,450 physical being so I would say that that 427 00:19:40,470 --> 00:19:36,549 happens a lot however I cannot specify a 428 00:19:42,869 --> 00:19:40,480 location or anything else so Jason maybe 429 00:19:45,659 --> 00:19:42,879 you can if I don't know if you remember 430 00:19:47,700 --> 00:19:45,669 any specific location no no no certainly 431 00:19:48,749 --> 00:19:47,710 certainly with the with the ranch you 432 00:19:50,519 --> 00:19:48,759 know this is the first I've heard about 433 00:19:52,950 --> 00:19:50,529 that that little cave that little 434 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:52,960 sinkhole so I think the other stories of 435 00:19:58,440 --> 00:19:54,490 people experiencing that on the ranch 436 00:20:00,869 --> 00:19:58,450 have been in other locations yeah it was 437 00:20:03,570 --> 00:20:00,879 cool I mean it worked out really well on 438 00:20:06,659 --> 00:20:03,580 the show because you know they happen to 439 00:20:08,730 --> 00:20:06,669 have a team there with equipment you 440 00:20:11,070 --> 00:20:08,740 know to be able to to measure things as 441 00:20:13,049 --> 00:20:11,080 this stuff was happening so you know 442 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:13,059 that was fortuitous and it was you know 443 00:20:17,789 --> 00:20:15,610 really good for them to be able to to 444 00:20:20,909 --> 00:20:17,799 measure things like oxygen and and also 445 00:20:22,919 --> 00:20:20,919 to be able to rule out things they were 446 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:22,929 looking for there like hazardous things 447 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:24,810 like asbestos and other things 448 00:20:29,390 --> 00:20:26,570 could be naturally occurring in the area 449 00:20:31,820 --> 00:20:29,400 but TJ I think you need to fill us in 450 00:20:34,250 --> 00:20:31,830 because from what we saw in this episode 451 00:20:36,950 --> 00:20:34,260 it looked like nobody actually like 452 00:20:42,740 --> 00:20:36,960 really ventured into the cave did people 453 00:20:45,770 --> 00:20:42,750 venture in so and or was it just yeah 454 00:20:47,780 --> 00:20:45,780 right so you know we're getting there 455 00:20:51,530 --> 00:20:47,790 things are moving forward I'm in the 456 00:20:54,110 --> 00:20:51,540 show I can tell you that well before any 457 00:20:58,240 --> 00:20:54,120 of this happened I actually had almost 458 00:21:01,100 --> 00:20:58,250 the exact same reaction to that whole I 459 00:21:03,020 --> 00:21:01,110 I just didn't stop when you get into the 460 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:03,030 first entryway I kind of stuck my head 461 00:21:10,970 --> 00:21:05,610 in and try to take a look into the 462 00:21:12,260 --> 00:21:10,980 darker part of it and I ended up I had a 463 00:21:14,510 --> 00:21:12,270 lot of the same reactions that Travis 464 00:21:16,850 --> 00:21:14,520 did I think he refers to his head being 465 00:21:21,050 --> 00:21:16,860 swimmy I didn't say the word swimmy but 466 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:21,060 I I definitely felt that I also ended up 467 00:21:28,940 --> 00:21:23,930 being sick for like the next nine months 468 00:21:30,650 --> 00:21:28,950 after being in that in that cave I kept 469 00:21:32,540 --> 00:21:30,660 calling it but if they're calling it you 470 00:21:36,260 --> 00:21:32,550 know sinkhole I was referred to as cave 471 00:21:39,410 --> 00:21:36,270 and so he met sinkhole I ended up I must 472 00:21:42,550 --> 00:21:39,420 have now knowing what we know now with 473 00:21:45,940 --> 00:21:42,560 those guys measuring what was in the air 474 00:21:48,110 --> 00:21:45,950 you know maybe I hadn't nailed something 475 00:21:50,510 --> 00:21:48,120 because I had some kind of respiratory 476 00:21:52,190 --> 00:21:50,520 illness for a very long time doctors 477 00:21:56,450 --> 00:21:52,200 were stumped I went back to New York 478 00:21:58,760 --> 00:21:56,460 City I mean I probably had seen no less 479 00:22:02,810 --> 00:21:58,770 than three doctors I had gone an entire 480 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:02,820 lung they had done the method chlorine 481 00:22:08,270 --> 00:22:06,090 challenge tests on me number of 482 00:22:09,140 --> 00:22:08,280 different tests and no one could figure 483 00:22:12,650 --> 00:22:09,150 out what it was 484 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:12,660 and it just would not subside I was 485 00:22:18,260 --> 00:22:15,890 seriously sick for nine months and then 486 00:22:21,260 --> 00:22:18,270 just as quickly as it came on it was 487 00:22:24,170 --> 00:22:21,270 gone and I was fine after a certain 488 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:24,180 period of time but so I mean I did have 489 00:22:29,990 --> 00:22:26,250 the I had a lot of the similar 490 00:22:32,510 --> 00:22:30,000 experiences that the Travis had and so I 491 00:22:34,790 --> 00:22:32,520 can speak to that that's you know at 492 00:22:37,940 --> 00:22:34,800 least at least now they know that there 493 00:22:38,269 --> 00:22:37,950 were spikes in in the VOCs that volatile 494 00:22:43,580 --> 00:22:38,279 or 495 00:22:46,659 --> 00:22:43,590 compounds that are there but yeah I just 496 00:22:48,889 --> 00:22:46,669 didn't necessarily know that then so 497 00:22:52,039 --> 00:22:48,899 again one of those things that's very 498 00:22:55,249 --> 00:22:52,049 interesting looking at whether magnetism 499 00:22:58,609 --> 00:22:55,259 has something to do with why you all 500 00:23:01,729 --> 00:22:58,619 were getting so sick and we don't know 501 00:23:05,330 --> 00:23:01,739 and so super interesting but but the 502 00:23:08,299 --> 00:23:05,340 same thing with Thomas and you mmm is we 503 00:23:11,269 --> 00:23:08,309 have doctors that are saying we cannot 504 00:23:15,379 --> 00:23:11,279 explain what is happening where one of 505 00:23:18,829 --> 00:23:15,389 my doctors one is far saying that she 506 00:23:21,109 --> 00:23:18,839 would refer to whatever I had as alien 507 00:23:21,589 --> 00:23:21,119 like you don't want to say that come on 508 00:23:26,379 --> 00:23:21,599 really 509 00:23:28,999 --> 00:23:26,389 oh did you know yeah it was it was in 510 00:23:33,409 --> 00:23:29,009 something I didn't know at the time and 511 00:23:34,969 --> 00:23:33,419 so I went back in New York and not when 512 00:23:37,700 --> 00:23:34,979 they tested me when you go get blood 513 00:23:39,709 --> 00:23:37,710 tests and whatnot they ask you in the in 514 00:23:40,999 --> 00:23:39,719 the u.s. like have you been in certain 515 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:41,009 areas because I guess there are 516 00:23:44,899 --> 00:23:42,450 different blood tests that they would 517 00:23:47,259 --> 00:23:44,909 run on you if you had been in like the 518 00:23:49,669 --> 00:23:47,269 southwest or northeast or whatever and 519 00:23:52,279 --> 00:23:49,679 there were none of the labs in the area 520 00:23:55,639 --> 00:23:52,289 that were able to do the tests that were 521 00:23:57,829 --> 00:23:55,649 that would have been more revealing for 522 00:24:00,079 --> 00:23:57,839 things that I could have contracted or 523 00:24:02,989 --> 00:24:00,089 you know inhaled or whatever if I was in 524 00:24:05,479 --> 00:24:02,999 south western part of the u.s. so it was 525 00:24:06,829 --> 00:24:05,489 just interesting to know that like why I 526 00:24:08,389 --> 00:24:06,839 thought a blood test for blood test you 527 00:24:11,869 --> 00:24:08,399 know I didn't realize it was just very 528 00:24:14,419 --> 00:24:11,879 specific like regionally speaking they 529 00:24:15,979 --> 00:24:14,429 went to be specific but it was and so 530 00:24:17,239 --> 00:24:15,989 yes she was like oh this you know we 531 00:24:19,789 --> 00:24:17,249 can't test for it I don't know what it 532 00:24:22,820 --> 00:24:19,799 is know maybe it's alien and yeah little 533 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:22,830 did she know where I was I'm not saying 534 00:24:36,769 --> 00:24:27,210 it's alien you know anyway Swimming Hall 535 00:24:40,129 --> 00:24:36,779 on skinwalker ranch from Travis his I 536 00:24:41,899 --> 00:24:40,139 feel very what he was really Eddie let 537 00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:41,909 me happy 538 00:24:46,099 --> 00:24:44,159 so you know go back to the magnetism so 539 00:24:48,259 --> 00:24:46,109 then right after he pops out of there 540 00:24:49,759 --> 00:24:48,269 you know the all of a sudden where the 541 00:24:51,890 --> 00:24:49,769 first thing he says his batteries of his 542 00:24:53,870 --> 00:24:51,900 phone or dead and then you know 543 00:24:56,990 --> 00:24:53,880 one of the technicians their phone just 544 00:25:00,110 --> 00:24:57,000 shut off and back to this magnetism like 545 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:00,120 you know what is causing you know these 546 00:25:03,370 --> 00:25:01,530 batteries to drain and it's not just 547 00:25:06,380 --> 00:25:03,380 specific to the wrench that happens on 548 00:25:08,330 --> 00:25:06,390 I've heard of that so often when any one 549 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:08,340 deals with anything in the paranormal 550 00:25:12,860 --> 00:25:10,290 realm and I could say paranormal because 551 00:25:14,630 --> 00:25:12,870 it's because everyone's now lumping 552 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:14,640 things in like aliens and ghosts and 553 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:17,610 whatever it's not paranormal I'm just 554 00:25:22,780 --> 00:25:19,410 referring to it as paranormal I may not 555 00:25:24,980 --> 00:25:22,790 be using it you know it's correctly but 556 00:25:26,690 --> 00:25:24,990 yeah what is it like what do people 557 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:26,700 think that is like what are the theories 558 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:28,890 behind the batteries being drained all 559 00:25:38,420 --> 00:25:34,050 the time I think there's a lot of 560 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:38,430 different theories about what what 561 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:41,010 drains batteries and and how it's like a 562 00:25:46,210 --> 00:25:42,930 life force sucking out the energy 563 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:46,220 however I think that the magnetism 564 00:25:53,180 --> 00:25:50,210 aspect is is probably more accurate and 565 00:25:57,140 --> 00:25:53,190 what is happening there to drain 566 00:26:01,730 --> 00:25:57,150 batteries let's dive into that instead 567 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:01,740 the idea of of that a ghost or someone 568 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:03,570 else is trying to drain your energy 569 00:26:08,570 --> 00:26:07,770 force right and so I love this I love 570 00:26:11,090 --> 00:26:08,580 that we're having these conversations 571 00:26:13,130 --> 00:26:11,100 because these are topics that people 572 00:26:15,170 --> 00:26:13,140 have kind of danced around the edge of 573 00:26:17,450 --> 00:26:15,180 for such a long time when it comes to 574 00:26:19,190 --> 00:26:17,460 anything ghosts related or alien related 575 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:19,200 quote-unquote and really because related 576 00:26:23,990 --> 00:26:22,770 I think paranormal people tend to just 577 00:26:26,180 --> 00:26:24,000 dance around this and now that these 578 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:26,190 guys are bringing in legit equipment I 579 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:29,250 mean you know when the moving out of the 580 00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:31,650 episode like going to the next you know 581 00:26:35,630 --> 00:26:33,360 right away like to the next block and 582 00:26:37,250 --> 00:26:35,640 when I say block it's when you when 583 00:26:39,410 --> 00:26:37,260 you're watching a television show most 584 00:26:41,900 --> 00:26:39,420 shows are presented in blocks like a 585 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:41,910 block B Block C Block D block and so a 586 00:26:47,060 --> 00:26:44,610 block is pretty much the the space 587 00:26:49,070 --> 00:26:47,070 between the commercials so before the 588 00:26:52,130 --> 00:26:49,080 first break that's the a block and then 589 00:26:54,890 --> 00:26:52,140 the B Block and so on so right you know 590 00:26:56,540 --> 00:26:54,900 in that same block than you you got them 591 00:26:58,550 --> 00:26:56,550 getting ready to go camping and they 592 00:27:00,170 --> 00:26:58,560 break out you know Travis just starts 593 00:27:02,150 --> 00:27:00,180 rattling off all the types of equipment 594 00:27:05,270 --> 00:27:02,160 that they have and so now you're talking 595 00:27:08,270 --> 00:27:05,280 about approaching these these whoo 596 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:08,280 ish kind of theories with legit science 597 00:27:11,810 --> 00:27:10,530 and so hopefully if you continue that in 598 00:27:14,570 --> 00:27:11,820 this path you know you're going to start 599 00:27:16,310 --> 00:27:14,580 seeing more and more answers and at 600 00:27:18,530 --> 00:27:16,320 least narrowing out narrowing it down 601 00:27:20,210 --> 00:27:18,540 the things that isn't I mean does that 602 00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:20,220 seem like we're you know you would want 603 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:21,360 to go with this 604 00:27:26,060 --> 00:27:24,330 yeah and you know my my initial thought 605 00:27:28,100 --> 00:27:26,070 when I saw them setting up was that as a 606 00:27:34,570 --> 00:27:28,110 badass camping trip that's how I want to 607 00:27:39,260 --> 00:27:37,400 matching camping gear so it was one of 608 00:27:47,030 --> 00:27:39,270 those things where it's like government 609 00:27:50,390 --> 00:27:47,040 sponsored camping with their little 610 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:50,400 purple chairs and everything and I was 611 00:27:59,060 --> 00:27:53,250 like oh do y'all got there they're cute 612 00:28:02,600 --> 00:27:59,070 little camping gear like actually going 613 00:28:08,030 --> 00:28:02,610 camping awesome I love it do it that's 614 00:28:09,050 --> 00:28:08,040 the best way to analyze anything it is I 615 00:28:10,820 --> 00:28:09,060 mean did you see that satellite dish 616 00:28:13,730 --> 00:28:10,830 like they did we're just setting stuff 617 00:28:15,140 --> 00:28:13,740 up and yeah I've never been camping with 618 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:15,150 anybody who brought their own satellite 619 00:28:21,830 --> 00:28:19,410 dish I'm a bit neither or television you 620 00:28:24,140 --> 00:28:21,840 know and I mean and that and the net 621 00:28:26,030 --> 00:28:24,150 goes to you know the next like both 622 00:28:27,230 --> 00:28:26,040 besides that you can see Eric's set up a 623 00:28:28,550 --> 00:28:27,240 little bit more in the command center 624 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:28,560 and they kind of touch on the fact that 625 00:28:33,620 --> 00:28:31,530 you know that place is just covered I 626 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:33,630 mean there there is just constant 627 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:36,450 monitoring of everything like every nook 628 00:28:40,700 --> 00:28:38,370 and cranny of that place and so that 629 00:28:43,730 --> 00:28:40,710 kind of leads to this is why you don't 630 00:28:45,500 --> 00:28:43,740 go to skinwalker ranch because there's 631 00:28:46,790 --> 00:28:45,510 always going to be somebody watching you 632 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:46,800 and you know as students you break that 633 00:28:51,950 --> 00:28:49,050 perimeter you're on camera you know it's 634 00:28:54,650 --> 00:28:51,960 a big brother big brother is watching a 635 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:54,660 science guy you know so you know we get 636 00:28:58,550 --> 00:28:56,010 to see a little bit of Eric's you know 637 00:29:00,320 --> 00:28:58,560 Eric stood up and then you know this is 638 00:29:01,460 --> 00:29:00,330 where it becomes this is the kind of 639 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:01,470 stuff I feel like people have been 640 00:29:06,770 --> 00:29:05,490 waiting to see you know the breaking me 641 00:29:08,660 --> 00:29:06,780 out the big guns like breaking out the 642 00:29:10,010 --> 00:29:08,670 big toys and it's like okay we're doing 643 00:29:12,110 --> 00:29:10,020 laser experiments you're doing beam 644 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:12,120 tracking you're you know these guys are 645 00:29:16,850 --> 00:29:14,730 setting up 60 inch televisions in the 646 00:29:19,399 --> 00:29:16,860 middle of a field 647 00:29:22,789 --> 00:29:19,409 to use as a monitor so they can see at 648 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:22,799 nighttime so now were your thoughts on 649 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:24,690 that like what did you what did you take 650 00:29:28,789 --> 00:29:26,850 away from all of the seams with the 651 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:28,799 infrared stuff in the light the 652 00:29:34,610 --> 00:29:32,250 experiment with lasers uh so um like I 653 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:34,620 was mentioning earlier we talked with 654 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:38,490 our geologist friend Ben McGee and he 655 00:29:45,049 --> 00:29:41,210 had mentioned something about like the 656 00:29:47,810 --> 00:29:45,059 if the Sun is hitting the ridge at a 657 00:29:51,519 --> 00:29:47,820 certain way would heat up the minerals 658 00:29:59,409 --> 00:29:51,529 in the ridge - then this you possibly 659 00:30:04,129 --> 00:30:02,480 that we're seeing and and I'm super 660 00:30:07,070 --> 00:30:04,139 curious about that I'm not saying that's 661 00:30:11,180 --> 00:30:07,080 the right answer I'm just saying it was 662 00:30:15,350 --> 00:30:11,190 a very interesting point and I wonder if 663 00:30:17,870 --> 00:30:15,360 that explains that specific light up 664 00:30:19,669 --> 00:30:17,880 incident so we're not there was 665 00:30:21,980 --> 00:30:19,679 something I would I wasn't aware of 666 00:30:25,250 --> 00:30:21,990 these white disks on the mountain do you 667 00:30:26,930 --> 00:30:25,260 did you catch that yeah like what do you 668 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:26,940 have any idea what that is what those 669 00:30:29,090 --> 00:30:27,450 were 670 00:30:31,879 --> 00:30:29,100 I have no idea is gonna be something 671 00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:31,889 with the very large breakup of the 672 00:30:35,269 --> 00:30:33,929 mountain of the ridge but yeah they 673 00:30:38,269 --> 00:30:35,279 didn't they didn't really go into that 674 00:30:40,100 --> 00:30:38,279 right I'm curious and you know it's like 675 00:30:41,570 --> 00:30:40,110 that's something I love Ben by the way 676 00:30:43,220 --> 00:30:41,580 Ben is awesome I mean I've talked to him 677 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:43,230 a few times like I still want to do 678 00:30:47,810 --> 00:30:45,090 something you know find a way to work 679 00:30:49,370 --> 00:30:47,820 with him at some point but he's I'd love 680 00:30:51,860 --> 00:30:49,380 to know what his take on that is like if 681 00:30:54,169 --> 00:30:51,870 he had any insight as to what kind of 682 00:30:57,230 --> 00:30:54,179 minerals would it have to be or what 683 00:31:05,090 --> 00:30:57,240 kind are produced that kind of you know 684 00:31:05,899 --> 00:31:05,100 glowing no he would jump on yeah I mean 685 00:31:08,870 --> 00:31:05,909 we create havoc 686 00:31:12,409 --> 00:31:08,880 another big brain yeah I think so much 687 00:31:15,950 --> 00:31:12,419 so much is really related to the geology 688 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:15,960 of the ranch I feel as well as the the 689 00:31:20,330 --> 00:31:17,850 microwave radiation and those are two 690 00:31:24,019 --> 00:31:20,340 things that Ben is an expert in both of 691 00:31:26,250 --> 00:31:24,029 those fields yeah so we kind of Jason 692 00:31:29,270 --> 00:31:26,260 and I did our little podcasts on 693 00:31:32,010 --> 00:31:29,280 the Sunday and we talked to him about 694 00:31:34,890 --> 00:31:32,020 radiation and whether the radiation 695 00:31:37,290 --> 00:31:34,900 fallout could explain some of the things 696 00:31:39,300 --> 00:31:37,300 happening on the ranch because he is a 697 00:31:43,860 --> 00:31:39,310 radiation expert 698 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:43,870 he works for nest which is the nuclear 699 00:31:57,770 --> 00:31:47,770 emergency Jason what's the rest of the 700 00:32:05,330 --> 00:32:02,220 STDs a super smart dude he's smarter 701 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:05,340 than me and he had some very interesting 702 00:32:13,230 --> 00:32:08,890 ideas in like how that would affect the 703 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:13,240 bovine population and also people and 704 00:32:20,010 --> 00:32:18,010 weather I mean we tried to kind of dance 705 00:32:28,310 --> 00:32:20,020 on the subject of what would have caused 706 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:28,320 Tom's cerebral sort of swelling who say 707 00:32:34,500 --> 00:32:31,450 yeah but do you have any insight to the 708 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:34,510 evany you know theories no he kind of 709 00:32:40,350 --> 00:32:37,410 like projected maybe that it was 710 00:32:43,710 --> 00:32:40,360 possible for some of the like 711 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:43,720 hallucinate in when I say hallucinations 712 00:32:47,130 --> 00:32:45,850 I mean this is like a projected theory 713 00:32:49,950 --> 00:32:47,140 we don't know that people are who 714 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:49,960 loosely maybe on the ranch this is if 715 00:33:00,150 --> 00:32:54,570 that was the cost that it was due to 716 00:33:03,660 --> 00:33:00,160 weird magnetism and others sort of 717 00:33:07,140 --> 00:33:03,670 puller things on the ranch which which 718 00:33:12,030 --> 00:33:07,150 is why we're seeing this like uranium or 719 00:33:13,980 --> 00:33:12,040 not uranium poisoning dig or not dig I 720 00:33:15,660 --> 00:33:13,990 mean times the first one that questioned 721 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:15,670 I mean even the last you know this 722 00:33:20,490 --> 00:33:17,770 episode even says I don't know if I was 723 00:33:23,010 --> 00:33:20,500 hearing the voices in my head you know 724 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:23,020 like or was I actually hearing voices I 725 00:33:28,530 --> 00:33:26,170 mean he's he's you know tom is really 726 00:33:31,020 --> 00:33:28,540 grounded and he's he approaches us you 727 00:33:32,460 --> 00:33:31,030 know very you know very level-headed 728 00:33:33,930 --> 00:33:32,470 he's not he hasn't jumped any 729 00:33:35,299 --> 00:33:33,940 conclusions you know he's like yeah I 730 00:33:37,100 --> 00:33:35,309 don't know I 731 00:33:39,590 --> 00:33:37,110 doctor I'm just can tell you what I'm 732 00:33:41,330 --> 00:33:39,600 experiencing and hopefully a doctor can 733 00:33:43,430 --> 00:33:41,340 figure you know they'll be able to tell 734 00:33:45,710 --> 00:33:43,440 me or give me answers and I mean that's 735 00:33:47,090 --> 00:33:45,720 a big thing it seems it's not that it 736 00:33:47,930 --> 00:33:47,100 seems I mean it is it's a big thing they 737 00:33:49,970 --> 00:33:47,940 want answers 738 00:33:52,039 --> 00:33:49,980 you know you mean this guy something you 739 00:33:53,210 --> 00:33:52,049 hit on you know and then watching this 740 00:33:53,690 --> 00:33:53,220 episode it looks like something hit him 741 00:33:55,220 --> 00:33:53,700 again 742 00:33:57,860 --> 00:33:55,230 and I don't mean like punched him hit 743 00:34:00,529 --> 00:33:57,870 him I mean something you know something 744 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:00,539 physically I don't know yeah I guess so 745 00:34:06,379 --> 00:34:03,570 to get him yeah and and that's why I am 746 00:34:09,250 --> 00:34:06,389 so careful to say like I'm not saying 747 00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:09,260 people are hallucinating I'm saying that 748 00:34:15,319 --> 00:34:12,510 there is this potential that can we 749 00:34:17,589 --> 00:34:15,329 figure out what is this like poisoning 750 00:34:19,250 --> 00:34:17,599 happening to people that people are 751 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:19,260 hallucinating 752 00:34:24,740 --> 00:34:21,690 direwolves on the property or is that 753 00:34:26,149 --> 00:34:24,750 not a thing no I I don't know that's a 754 00:34:29,030 --> 00:34:26,159 good question and maybe we'll get some 755 00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:29,040 answers mm-hmm you have to keep tuning 756 00:34:35,930 --> 00:34:34,649 in I was really excited with the camping 757 00:34:37,129 --> 00:34:35,940 scene when they busted everything out 758 00:34:40,089 --> 00:34:37,139 and started trying to conduct 759 00:34:42,829 --> 00:34:40,099 experiments and something that struck me 760 00:34:44,599 --> 00:34:42,839 you know something that probably was was 761 00:34:48,139 --> 00:34:44,609 a little frustrating to to some viewers 762 00:34:50,540 --> 00:34:48,149 but it's something that we're aware of 763 00:34:54,109 --> 00:34:50,550 and that is looking at some of this cool 764 00:34:56,899 --> 00:34:54,119 stuff like the infrared cameras and the 765 00:34:58,819 --> 00:34:56,909 other visual tools they were using they 766 00:35:01,099 --> 00:34:58,829 don't always come out so well on TV 767 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:01,109 right you need to be there and be 768 00:35:06,740 --> 00:35:03,810 actually looking at the tools in use 769 00:35:08,900 --> 00:35:06,750 because on TV a lot of times what looks 770 00:35:11,420 --> 00:35:08,910 really cool in real life looking at 771 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:11,430 those those instruments in use on TV it 772 00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:12,810 just looks like a bunch of static and 773 00:35:17,450 --> 00:35:13,920 you know I don't understand what they're 774 00:35:19,940 --> 00:35:17,460 looking at so you know that happens on 775 00:35:21,290 --> 00:35:19,950 TV that's the unfortunate thing but at 776 00:35:22,670 --> 00:35:21,300 the same time it's exciting you sort of 777 00:35:24,290 --> 00:35:22,680 get the sense and they did a good job of 778 00:35:26,990 --> 00:35:24,300 filling people and to let us know what 779 00:35:28,730 --> 00:35:27,000 what was happening but you know that 780 00:35:30,650 --> 00:35:28,740 that's just something that comes with 781 00:35:32,540 --> 00:35:30,660 with the territory of using both a night 782 00:35:35,050 --> 00:35:32,550 vision you know infrared those types of 783 00:35:39,170 --> 00:35:35,060 tools don't really translate well to TV 784 00:35:42,740 --> 00:35:39,180 so here's something no this I'm sure 785 00:35:46,010 --> 00:35:42,750 freaked a lot of people out that well 786 00:35:47,030 --> 00:35:46,020 kind of just fast-forward past the growl 787 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:47,040 in the background 788 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:48,610 did you guys hear the growl 789 00:35:54,810 --> 00:35:52,330 like come on I mean again this is this 790 00:35:56,970 --> 00:35:54,820 is legit this is what was picked up like 791 00:35:59,280 --> 00:35:56,980 knowing there's no like there's no PA 792 00:36:00,150 --> 00:35:59,290 there with a ground a PA is a production 793 00:36:01,710 --> 00:36:00,160 assistant there's no production 794 00:36:04,830 --> 00:36:01,720 assistant you know with a growling 795 00:36:07,530 --> 00:36:04,840 machine or playing growling sounds the 796 00:36:11,210 --> 00:36:07,540 cameras picked up legit growl and there 797 00:36:14,910 --> 00:36:11,220 are animals there but I mean that's a 798 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:14,920 sound you know I would be very I would 799 00:36:18,150 --> 00:36:16,570 be scared I mean I feel like those guys 800 00:36:19,140 --> 00:36:18,160 handled it pretty well I don't know if I 801 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:19,150 would have been able to handle it that 802 00:36:28,110 --> 00:36:23,410 well somebody was hungry I need to 803 00:36:30,780 --> 00:36:28,120 rewatch it because I saw all the Twitter 804 00:36:34,110 --> 00:36:30,790 comments about that and I had missed it 805 00:36:36,750 --> 00:36:34,120 and I think that for sure if I saw or 806 00:36:39,780 --> 00:36:36,760 heard a growl on a ranch like that I'd 807 00:36:43,530 --> 00:36:39,790 be scared shitless yeah I definitely 808 00:36:45,690 --> 00:36:43,540 would and then the thing that I really 809 00:36:47,940 --> 00:36:45,700 loved and I'm glad people other people 810 00:36:51,210 --> 00:36:47,950 got to see it because this was one of 811 00:36:54,420 --> 00:36:51,220 the most fascinating things to me about 812 00:36:57,180 --> 00:36:54,430 about that place was the infrared lights 813 00:37:01,170 --> 00:36:57,190 that do you do not see with your naked 814 00:37:03,330 --> 00:37:01,180 eye but the first time Eric showed that 815 00:37:05,490 --> 00:37:03,340 to me it's like he's like you see that 816 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:05,500 and I was like yeah yeah you know I see 817 00:37:11,490 --> 00:37:09,010 it on the screen and he's like um yeah 818 00:37:13,380 --> 00:37:11,500 that's not really there what do you mean 819 00:37:15,240 --> 00:37:13,390 then he goes you can't see that with 820 00:37:17,790 --> 00:37:15,250 your naked eye and it was kind of like 821 00:37:19,890 --> 00:37:17,800 I'll come on man seriously and now other 822 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:19,900 people get to see you're witnessing that 823 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:22,170 firsthand like there's something 824 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:25,810 pointing out of the ground it's not it's 825 00:37:31,500 --> 00:37:27,850 you know it's not pointing at the ground 826 00:37:33,090 --> 00:37:31,510 it's going wait like upward and at one 827 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:33,100 point it's tracking something it looks 828 00:37:36,510 --> 00:37:34,570 as if it's pointing and tracking 829 00:37:39,450 --> 00:37:36,520 something in the sky as for their 830 00:37:41,100 --> 00:37:39,460 comments on the show I mean what do you 831 00:37:43,460 --> 00:37:41,110 guys think like have you ever heard of 832 00:37:46,410 --> 00:37:43,470 anything like that before 833 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:46,420 TJ I think that's a really really good 834 00:37:54,930 --> 00:37:49,690 aspect to talk about because I have 835 00:37:58,980 --> 00:37:54,940 literally no brass you know I can't 836 00:38:01,020 --> 00:37:58,990 rationalize a beam shooting up in the 837 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:01,030 middle of nowhere for right so the road 838 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:02,410 yeah from the ground 839 00:38:09,150 --> 00:38:05,770 so I mean as in Episode one you know 840 00:38:10,980 --> 00:38:09,160 kind of made the comment about their car 841 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:10,990 dealership or something over there 842 00:38:20,460 --> 00:38:16,450 there's not and I I don't have any 843 00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:20,470 answer Jason take it I don't know no I 844 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:21,910 mean that's a that's a good way to say 845 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:23,650 it there's so many unknowns and it's 846 00:38:28,350 --> 00:38:26,410 certainly not being an expert in in IR 847 00:38:30,690 --> 00:38:28,360 technology and how that works you know 848 00:38:33,660 --> 00:38:30,700 what else could possibly explain you 849 00:38:36,810 --> 00:38:33,670 know what it's picking up you know it 850 00:38:38,940 --> 00:38:36,820 could be some some other sort of signal 851 00:38:40,710 --> 00:38:38,950 you know that it that it can see like 852 00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:40,720 something like a you know a cellular 853 00:38:44,460 --> 00:38:42,250 signal or something like that 854 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:44,470 I don't know oh that's interesting but 855 00:38:49,830 --> 00:38:47,650 also another possibility that we've seen 856 00:38:51,450 --> 00:38:49,840 a lot in in other types of videos and 857 00:38:54,090 --> 00:38:51,460 probably not here because the ranch is 858 00:38:55,770 --> 00:38:54,100 more remote and certainly everybody on 859 00:38:58,890 --> 00:38:55,780 the ranch would have been accounted for 860 00:39:01,080 --> 00:38:58,900 but you know if there is a car something 861 00:39:03,510 --> 00:39:01,090 driving in the distance you know and you 862 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:03,520 happen to get a little bit of the 863 00:39:06,750 --> 00:39:05,170 headlight headlights reflecting off 864 00:39:09,330 --> 00:39:06,760 something or or you know hitting the 865 00:39:11,850 --> 00:39:09,340 lens you know and refracting a different 866 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:11,860 way and just casting a beam you wouldn't 867 00:39:14,370 --> 00:39:13,090 necessarily see the car if it's coming 868 00:39:16,380 --> 00:39:14,380 around the ridge or something and that 869 00:39:18,810 --> 00:39:16,390 that would cause some weird movement of 870 00:39:20,700 --> 00:39:18,820 a light pillar you know sometimes we see 871 00:39:21,900 --> 00:39:20,710 that with videos but in the case of 872 00:39:24,150 --> 00:39:21,910 where where this was occurring that's 873 00:39:26,100 --> 00:39:24,160 probably only had to be the case yeah I 874 00:39:27,990 --> 00:39:26,110 know from my experience being there like 875 00:39:31,170 --> 00:39:28,000 I know exactly where that where they 876 00:39:33,150 --> 00:39:31,180 were and there's no you're not there's 877 00:39:35,190 --> 00:39:33,160 there's nothing there there's no cars 878 00:39:39,150 --> 00:39:35,200 car headlights that are going to hit 879 00:39:42,660 --> 00:39:39,160 that I mean that direction it just 880 00:39:51,620 --> 00:39:46,020 I think that that makes sense more with 881 00:39:55,740 --> 00:39:51,630 the [\h__\h] what's the Texas mark fo light 882 00:40:00,240 --> 00:39:55,750 great cetera like there is some definite 883 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:00,250 case for headlights to be certain 884 00:40:06,990 --> 00:40:03,490 aspects with that in this case yeah it 885 00:40:09,770 --> 00:40:07,000 seems weird that the the lights are 886 00:40:14,100 --> 00:40:09,780 projecting and that way but I don't know 887 00:40:16,030 --> 00:40:14,110 how to answer that honestly like I think 888 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:16,040 I'm still a little confused 889 00:40:22,780 --> 00:40:19,850 however I'm not saying that there's not 890 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:22,790 a rational explanation for it so what 891 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:24,530 got me about that never wanted to ask 892 00:40:28,150 --> 00:40:25,970 the two of you in particular because 893 00:40:30,220 --> 00:40:28,160 you've had a lot of experience you know 894 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:30,230 being the Scully and Scully here that 895 00:40:36,070 --> 00:40:33,290 you want to believe I mean you know more 896 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:36,080 historical cases and whatnot than I 897 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:38,810 would and have you you know has there 898 00:40:41,740 --> 00:40:40,370 been anything reported like that besides 899 00:40:43,740 --> 00:40:41,750 though the lights you just mentioned but 900 00:40:45,940 --> 00:40:43,750 I have not heard of anything like that 901 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:45,950 where people are just randomly seeing 902 00:40:50,590 --> 00:40:48,650 infrared lights shooting up from the 903 00:40:53,650 --> 00:40:50,600 ground like that just seems odd to me 904 00:40:55,090 --> 00:40:53,660 and certainly it's more odd because not 905 00:40:58,030 --> 00:40:55,100 a lot of people haven't Fred cameras 906 00:40:59,500 --> 00:40:58,040 right above it you know is a normal 907 00:41:01,240 --> 00:40:59,510 thing that a lot of people are used to 908 00:41:04,510 --> 00:41:01,250 using and seeing what things look like 909 00:41:08,500 --> 00:41:04,520 on infrared maybe not anymore anyway 910 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:08,510 because I remember back in my day back 911 00:41:11,770 --> 00:41:09,770 in the 90s when you'd buy a little 912 00:41:14,470 --> 00:41:11,780 camcorder those things all had that 913 00:41:16,930 --> 00:41:14,480 infrared setting and now it's you know 914 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:16,940 it's a high-end item to have infrared on 915 00:41:20,170 --> 00:41:18,290 your camera but back then it's like oh 916 00:41:21,820 --> 00:41:20,180 when you're making videos as a kid 917 00:41:23,110 --> 00:41:21,830 you're like oh don't need incredible 918 00:41:24,670 --> 00:41:23,120 health mode and you would put the thing 919 00:41:26,740 --> 00:41:24,680 then it turns green and you're like oh 920 00:41:30,670 --> 00:41:26,750 you know that was your that was your 921 00:41:34,210 --> 00:41:30,680 superhero moment so I mean so you know 922 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:34,220 after we out in that field and then they 923 00:41:39,100 --> 00:41:35,930 learn that last microwave experiment and 924 00:41:43,510 --> 00:41:39,110 then you know it happens again then Tom 925 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:43,520 again reaches back and you know it's 926 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:45,530 almost as if his injury to his head has 927 00:41:50,410 --> 00:41:48,530 been recreated and it's funny because 928 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:50,420 they weren't digging this time no one 929 00:41:56,230 --> 00:41:53,330 who was digging anything the poor Tom I 930 00:41:58,330 --> 00:41:56,240 mean no it's it wasn't like somebody ran 931 00:41:59,590 --> 00:41:58,340 up and hit him I mean there's a whole 932 00:42:01,360 --> 00:41:59,600 bunch of people around him there's 933 00:42:03,910 --> 00:42:01,370 camera crews it's like you're pretty 934 00:42:06,790 --> 00:42:03,920 insulated so you're not alone and nobody 935 00:42:09,610 --> 00:42:06,800 saw anything happened to you but you 936 00:42:13,270 --> 00:42:09,620 can't deny the the mark on your head so 937 00:42:14,770 --> 00:42:13,280 I just it's beyond me I mean is I think 938 00:42:17,730 --> 00:42:14,780 we had a lot of everyone there but I 939 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:17,740 mean wait what are the theories here I 940 00:42:22,540 --> 00:42:20,090 think that's the same thing that we've 941 00:42:23,900 --> 00:42:22,550 been saying where it is potential to be 942 00:42:27,829 --> 00:42:23,910 some sort of magnetic 943 00:42:29,329 --> 00:42:27,839 thing and it does not shock me to have 944 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:29,339 that be something that would affect 945 00:42:40,670 --> 00:42:33,410 somebody's mental and/or physical health 946 00:42:43,250 --> 00:42:40,680 because [\h__\h] happens all the time so at 947 00:42:46,750 --> 00:42:43,260 this point in time I could see like if 948 00:42:51,620 --> 00:42:46,760 he was diving down and the you know 949 00:42:54,859 --> 00:42:51,630 magnetism is so high that he's having 950 00:42:59,059 --> 00:42:54,869 problems functioning mm-hmm 951 00:43:01,400 --> 00:42:59,069 that that steam at normal levels in 952 00:43:05,299 --> 00:43:01,410 projects all over the world so this is 953 00:43:07,180 --> 00:43:05,309 not super shocking with it that you know 954 00:43:09,770 --> 00:43:07,190 it seems now they have multiple 955 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:09,780 anomalies happening you have Magnus you 956 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:12,450 have the you know Tom with a magnus and 957 00:43:16,220 --> 00:43:13,890 you had the microwave because they're 958 00:43:18,170 --> 00:43:16,230 doing the microwave testing and then you 959 00:43:19,579 --> 00:43:18,180 have some kind of glowing rocks I mean 960 00:43:21,710 --> 00:43:19,589 so you have you have a number of things 961 00:43:24,289 --> 00:43:21,720 at play here so it's gonna be 962 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:24,299 interesting to see where that goes I 963 00:43:29,990 --> 00:43:26,970 mean I think people are gonna be very 964 00:43:31,279 --> 00:43:30,000 happy with but you know together they're 965 00:43:33,109 --> 00:43:31,289 gonna enjoy the journey I can tell you 966 00:43:40,010 --> 00:43:33,119 that I miss talking about the the green 967 00:43:44,089 --> 00:43:40,020 laser okay so yes the laser so thoughts 968 00:43:46,039 --> 00:43:44,099 on laser so I have thoughts but you know 969 00:43:48,559 --> 00:43:46,049 that that's the one thing that I really 970 00:43:51,260 --> 00:43:48,569 wish I would have been there for because 971 00:43:54,470 --> 00:43:51,270 I'm sure being there in person I would 972 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:54,480 be more perplexed had I been there but 973 00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:55,890 you know just from my limited 974 00:44:01,490 --> 00:43:58,170 perspective being a viewer watching a TV 975 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:01,500 show to me seeing what that laser was 976 00:44:06,740 --> 00:44:04,650 doing looked precisely like just 977 00:44:10,069 --> 00:44:06,750 reflection on the lens just lens glare 978 00:44:12,140 --> 00:44:10,079 yeah because the the double the the 979 00:44:15,950 --> 00:44:12,150 second daughter whatever was moving 980 00:44:17,630 --> 00:44:15,960 exactly in response to where the laser 981 00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:17,640 was moving it was kind of dancing around 982 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:20,400 just like lens flare would do but it's 983 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:22,170 right you know they were there if they 984 00:44:26,059 --> 00:44:23,970 they saw something different I don't 985 00:44:29,599 --> 00:44:26,069 know but that was mine when I saw that 986 00:44:31,279 --> 00:44:29,609 do it with you I with you because I mean 987 00:44:32,990 --> 00:44:31,289 and I think that they they must have 988 00:44:33,950 --> 00:44:33,000 those guys obviously know what they're 989 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:33,960 you know they know what they're looking 990 00:44:37,590 --> 00:44:36,450 at and I'm sure they it must have 991 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:37,600 appeared different to them be 992 00:44:41,700 --> 00:44:38,770 because it was immediately that's 993 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:41,710 recognizable the same way to me so I 994 00:44:47,010 --> 00:44:43,690 don't think like just like you don't see 995 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:47,020 the IR footage as well on a when you're 996 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:49,330 looking at a screen with a camera maybe 997 00:44:53,670 --> 00:44:50,890 the camera wasn't doing that justice as 998 00:44:55,890 --> 00:44:53,680 well you know that's just kind of where 999 00:45:00,270 --> 00:44:55,900 I was what I was thinking but that does 1000 00:45:03,810 --> 00:45:00,280 not I mean the power still goes out on 1001 00:45:06,780 --> 00:45:03,820 it which is just again like come on man 1002 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:06,790 I get that's another one of those the 1003 00:45:12,090 --> 00:45:08,290 batteries getting drained I mean that's 1004 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:12,100 just kind of a common a common thing you 1005 00:45:19,110 --> 00:45:14,770 know like I'm like when I was out when I 1006 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:19,120 was out there one of the times you know 1007 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:21,370 we had I had a drone we had a drone that 1008 00:45:28,260 --> 00:45:24,370 just went haywire drone battery like the 1009 00:45:30,810 --> 00:45:28,270 drone just dies and then it kind of 1010 00:45:33,390 --> 00:45:30,820 boots up you know kind of gets back up 1011 00:45:35,490 --> 00:45:33,400 so you think we could take off but then 1012 00:45:37,410 --> 00:45:35,500 the camera starts to get well just going 1013 00:45:39,660 --> 00:45:37,420 nuts and it doesn't make any sense it 1014 00:45:41,580 --> 00:45:39,670 just completely gets disoriented and it 1015 00:45:42,990 --> 00:45:41,590 becomes useless it becomes just a you 1016 00:45:46,050 --> 00:45:43,000 know a paperweight with blake the 1017 00:45:48,540 --> 00:45:46,060 propellers on it very expensive one but 1018 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:48,550 you know we've had a lot of those things 1019 00:45:53,010 --> 00:45:50,290 i mean sound or sounded like we used to 1020 00:45:55,230 --> 00:45:53,020 have sound issues all the time you know 1021 00:45:57,240 --> 00:45:55,240 we were first trying to get things so 1022 00:46:00,450 --> 00:45:57,250 not this before these guys are out there 1023 00:46:03,390 --> 00:46:00,460 now but i mean your first approaching 1024 00:46:05,700 --> 00:46:03,400 this it was there are a lot of these 1025 00:46:07,170 --> 00:46:05,710 types of things happening so it's kind 1026 00:46:09,450 --> 00:46:07,180 of good to know 1027 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:09,460 in a sense that it's consistent that 1028 00:46:14,220 --> 00:46:11,770 it's not just oh them or you know or 1029 00:46:17,220 --> 00:46:14,230 just you it's it really is a consistent 1030 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:17,230 thing that happens so that's kind of you 1031 00:46:21,090 --> 00:46:19,810 know you don't have to work too hard to 1032 00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:21,100 recreate those things it just going to 1033 00:46:27,930 --> 00:46:24,730 happen so I think for the general public 1034 00:46:31,890 --> 00:46:27,940 something that would be relevant to 1035 00:46:35,130 --> 00:46:31,900 mention is that when Coulomb 1036 00:46:39,170 --> 00:46:35,140 tell her and George Knapp we're doing 1037 00:46:42,210 --> 00:46:39,180 their nits research that they had 1038 00:46:47,250 --> 00:46:42,220 cameras and things that also would go 1039 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:47,260 down and granted these were were way 1040 00:46:53,190 --> 00:46:50,050 less high-tech and 1041 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:53,200 they they would have something set up 1042 00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:55,530 with duct tape 1043 00:47:01,110 --> 00:46:58,090 you know holding the camera up in a 1044 00:47:03,510 --> 00:47:01,120 certain corner of the ranch and it would 1045 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:03,520 go the next day and it would be totally 1046 00:47:12,090 --> 00:47:07,290 destroyed and the camera was like I'm 1047 00:47:13,170 --> 00:47:12,100 blacked out or something so so this is 1048 00:47:15,900 --> 00:47:13,180 not yeah 1049 00:47:18,150 --> 00:47:15,910 like whether the technology is super 1050 00:47:20,970 --> 00:47:18,160 high-tech or whether it was back in the 1051 00:47:24,630 --> 00:47:20,980 day like there is something going on and 1052 00:47:24,990 --> 00:47:24,640 whether it's its magnetism or something 1053 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:25,000 else 1054 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:30,130 shutting off technology and I think 1055 00:47:34,740 --> 00:47:31,930 that's one of the most important places 1056 00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:34,750 that we need to research and it isn't I 1057 00:47:38,550 --> 00:47:36,250 mean you guys got to see firsthand you 1058 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:38,560 know from this last episode Eric isn't 1059 00:47:43,380 --> 00:47:40,690 screwing around I mean there's cameras 1060 00:47:45,270 --> 00:47:43,390 upon cameras upon cameras it's like you 1061 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:45,280 were saying last week Jason like you 1062 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:46,930 know having redundancy or having a 1063 00:47:52,410 --> 00:47:50,770 camera on the camera it's like yes that 1064 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:52,420 is happening like I mean you could see 1065 00:47:56,810 --> 00:47:53,890 it when he was standing in the booth you 1066 00:48:00,090 --> 00:47:56,820 know you're looking at like a wall of 1067 00:48:02,310 --> 00:48:00,100 monitors because I love it there's yeah 1068 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:02,320 he's not screwing around and they're all 1069 00:48:06,330 --> 00:48:04,450 different light spectrums and he's like 1070 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:06,340 you know he just wants to get to the 1071 00:48:11,190 --> 00:48:09,490 bottom of this stuff so yeah I mean it's 1072 00:48:13,020 --> 00:48:11,200 great I think I think they're living up 1073 00:48:15,030 --> 00:48:13,030 to the expectations and the tech front 1074 00:48:16,470 --> 00:48:15,040 like people always wanted these tech all 1075 00:48:18,300 --> 00:48:16,480 these toys to be out there and you know 1076 00:48:21,210 --> 00:48:18,310 what they're there Brandon is like yep 1077 00:48:22,890 --> 00:48:21,220 well you know go big or go home man he's 1078 00:48:25,020 --> 00:48:22,900 going big cuz that's what he does and 1079 00:48:27,420 --> 00:48:25,030 like I said before like he's not going 1080 00:48:30,450 --> 00:48:27,430 to fail like there will be there will be 1081 00:48:32,310 --> 00:48:30,460 results coming out of this I'm confident 1082 00:48:34,890 --> 00:48:32,320 whether it's now whether it's five years 1083 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:34,900 from now things are things are moving so 1084 00:48:38,190 --> 00:48:36,610 and I'm only saying I'm only saying it 1085 00:48:41,430 --> 00:48:38,200 that big because I can't tell you if 1086 00:48:45,810 --> 00:48:41,440 it's now or if it's five years of now so 1087 00:48:48,930 --> 00:48:45,820 what are you saying I think we're all on 1088 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:48,940 the like this is good and let's move 1089 00:48:54,270 --> 00:48:50,890 forward it's going to be slow because 1090 00:48:57,350 --> 00:48:54,280 it's TV but everyone take patience and 1091 00:49:01,830 --> 00:48:57,360 let's see what what happens because 1092 00:49:02,470 --> 00:49:01,840 clearly Brandon is investing in actually 1093 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:02,480 trying to 1094 00:49:07,990 --> 00:49:05,090 get some results for us and for the rest 1095 00:49:11,740 --> 00:49:08,000 of us that's awesome yes now Jason I 1096 00:49:13,720 --> 00:49:11,750 know that we have to you have two ways 1097 00:49:16,990 --> 00:49:13,730 for people to kind of write in or send 1098 00:49:19,090 --> 00:49:17,000 in questions and then we're gonna read a 1099 00:49:20,470 --> 00:49:19,100 couple right now but because a lot of 1100 00:49:22,450 --> 00:49:20,480 stuff we talked about you know I'd love 1101 00:49:24,099 --> 00:49:22,460 to get people's feedback on what they 1102 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:24,109 were like what they think or what their 1103 00:49:28,270 --> 00:49:26,090 ideas were or you know what other 1104 00:49:29,859 --> 00:49:28,280 theories there are out there like for 1105 00:49:31,150 --> 00:49:29,869 the infrared stuff coming from out of 1106 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:31,160 the ground like maybe it's stuff that we 1107 00:49:34,450 --> 00:49:32,690 just don't you know we're not aware of 1108 00:49:37,210 --> 00:49:34,460 like maybe Ben would be like oh yeah 1109 00:49:39,250 --> 00:49:37,220 that's yeah okay 1110 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:39,260 so if I mean people have ideas or 1111 00:49:43,900 --> 00:49:40,850 theories or information that we don't 1112 00:49:46,210 --> 00:49:43,910 have you know scientific stuff that we 1113 00:49:48,490 --> 00:49:46,220 can use that'd be great please but you 1114 00:49:49,930 --> 00:49:48,500 have so it's what the first one is the 1115 00:49:52,570 --> 00:49:49,940 email addresses the contact at rogue 1116 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:52,580 planet TV and then the other is on 1117 00:49:58,690 --> 00:49:56,210 Twitter at skinwalker pod so you know 1118 00:50:02,940 --> 00:49:58,700 feel free to reach out we'd love to hear 1119 00:50:06,700 --> 00:50:02,950 from you guys and girls and you know any 1120 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:06,710 anything any feedback comments questions 1121 00:50:10,810 --> 00:50:09,530 we'd love it and so Jason we pulled a 1122 00:50:14,109 --> 00:50:10,820 couple from this week right a couple 1123 00:50:16,300 --> 00:50:14,119 that we got from online I I think you 1124 00:50:17,590 --> 00:50:16,310 had a couple of questions that we I 1125 00:50:19,810 --> 00:50:17,600 don't know where they came from it was a 1126 00:50:22,180 --> 00:50:19,820 twitter or was it youtube do you 1127 00:50:24,700 --> 00:50:22,190 remember I think one was Twitter one was 1128 00:50:26,730 --> 00:50:24,710 YouTube yeah oh okay there you go well 1129 00:50:29,140 --> 00:50:26,740 so I mean the only ones I'd seen was 1130 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:29,150 least two here that was the first one 1131 00:50:35,770 --> 00:50:32,810 says what so hello I'm interested if the 1132 00:50:38,230 --> 00:50:35,780 team has had any sightings of Bigfoot 1133 00:50:39,970 --> 00:50:38,240 during their time there not that I'm 1134 00:50:42,730 --> 00:50:39,980 aware of and do either of you guys know 1135 00:50:44,820 --> 00:50:42,740 has there been anything historically 1136 00:50:48,570 --> 00:50:44,830 where people have said they have seen 1137 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:48,580 Bigfoot's on the ranch I mean 1138 00:50:55,590 --> 00:50:51,890 historically I think I can say that yes 1139 00:51:00,160 --> 00:50:55,600 there has been sightings reported but I 1140 00:51:02,650 --> 00:51:00,170 I cannot be very specific on that okay 1141 00:51:05,260 --> 00:51:02,660 and then the other was are there gonna 1142 00:51:06,730 --> 00:51:05,270 be any static cameras put around the 1143 00:51:08,770 --> 00:51:06,740 properties of the public in the stream 1144 00:51:11,470 --> 00:51:08,780 in the footage well funny you say that 1145 00:51:14,530 --> 00:51:11,480 because I was it right before the first 1146 00:51:16,750 --> 00:51:14,540 episode they had done their first live 1147 00:51:17,770 --> 00:51:16,760 stream so 1148 00:51:20,860 --> 00:51:17,780 it seemed like it was a pretty 1149 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:20,870 successful test and you know whatever 1150 00:51:26,170 --> 00:51:24,050 those results of that of that were then 1151 00:51:27,670 --> 00:51:26,180 I think if it turned out to be positive 1152 00:51:30,220 --> 00:51:27,680 for them I would imagine that you would 1153 00:51:32,980 --> 00:51:30,230 see more of that it's just something I 1154 00:51:35,860 --> 00:51:32,990 know info on but yeah it seems cool like 1155 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:35,870 did you see oh no you didn't see the the 1156 00:51:43,270 --> 00:51:39,650 triangle I didn't see a lot at night 1157 00:51:45,220 --> 00:51:43,280 no but yeah yeah I would assume that 1158 00:51:48,430 --> 00:51:45,230 that's going to happen I would be 1159 00:51:51,790 --> 00:51:48,440 surprised if it doesn't and yeah but I 1160 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:51,800 mean who knows right I mean it's more 1161 00:51:56,410 --> 00:51:54,770 eyes exactly I'm glad you brought that 1162 00:51:59,320 --> 00:51:56,420 up because that had always been one of 1163 00:52:01,990 --> 00:51:59,330 his you know his sticking points like 1164 00:52:03,340 --> 00:52:02,000 the more people the more eyeballs that 1165 00:52:06,910 --> 00:52:03,350 we can get on this the better like the 1166 00:52:09,850 --> 00:52:06,920 more crowds well yeah he used to call 1167 00:52:12,220 --> 00:52:09,860 him was a biological sensors he would 1168 00:52:14,230 --> 00:52:12,230 call things here's like you know the 1169 00:52:15,910 --> 00:52:14,240 cows their biological sensors you know 1170 00:52:18,130 --> 00:52:15,920 humans their biological sensors like 1171 00:52:20,260 --> 00:52:18,140 they're pretty much just you know you 1172 00:52:22,450 --> 00:52:20,270 picked up information and they relay it 1173 00:52:24,250 --> 00:52:22,460 but they don't so they give you zeros 1174 00:52:26,790 --> 00:52:24,260 and ones they might scream or they might 1175 00:52:29,140 --> 00:52:26,800 laugh or they might do something else so 1176 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:29,150 you know that mean the more the merrier 1177 00:52:32,530 --> 00:52:30,890 you know and I think that it would 1178 00:52:34,330 --> 00:52:32,540 definitely help kind of like sunny 1179 00:52:39,490 --> 00:52:34,340 remembers so yeah yeah that's exactly 1180 00:52:43,990 --> 00:52:39,500 what I was gonna say home-study has 1181 00:52:46,420 --> 00:52:44,000 asked programmers to join in help sort 1182 00:52:48,580 --> 00:52:46,430 of put their bandwidth forward to search 1183 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:48,590 for extraterrestrial life in a same damn 1184 00:52:57,670 --> 00:52:51,050 thing yes that's a way that they just 1185 00:52:58,870 --> 00:52:57,680 closed that down breaking our hearts no 1186 00:53:00,940 --> 00:52:58,880 well you know what that's a good thing 1187 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:00,950 because now all of those computers that 1188 00:53:06,100 --> 00:53:02,690 were being used for that can be used for 1189 00:53:07,300 --> 00:53:06,110 the rash mmm you can you know kind of 1190 00:53:08,860 --> 00:53:07,310 how do you get all of those people to 1191 00:53:10,210 --> 00:53:08,870 say oh wow because there was a lot of 1192 00:53:13,780 --> 00:53:10,220 them man I know they used to keep a 1193 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:13,790 record number of people participating in 1194 00:53:18,010 --> 00:53:15,290 that I mean I can't certain how many 1195 00:53:19,810 --> 00:53:18,020 random people over the years you know 1196 00:53:21,550 --> 00:53:19,820 through our UFO career that would would 1197 00:53:23,710 --> 00:53:21,560 come up and and they weren't you know 1198 00:53:25,570 --> 00:53:23,720 really UFO people but they were casually 1199 00:53:27,849 --> 00:53:25,580 interested they were more more nerds 1200 00:53:29,799 --> 00:53:27,859 than specific UFO 1201 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:29,809 nerds and they just thought it was cool 1202 00:53:34,599 --> 00:53:31,970 they're all yeah I like geeky computer 1203 00:53:37,539 --> 00:53:34,609 stuff and hey aliens that's cool sure 1204 00:53:41,620 --> 00:53:37,549 why not the background of their computer 1205 00:53:44,140 --> 00:53:41,630 all right well I think what the lesson 1206 00:53:46,930 --> 00:53:44,150 that is learned from this is we need to 1207 00:53:49,210 --> 00:53:46,940 have a nice little sheet explaining how 1208 00:53:51,670 --> 00:53:49,220 people can get involved and how they 1209 00:53:52,509 --> 00:53:51,680 could do it and then use them to our 1210 00:53:54,519 --> 00:53:52,519 advantage 1211 00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:54,529 hey you know I mean it's not something 1212 00:53:59,620 --> 00:53:57,410 out of the ordinary I mean and so and 1213 00:54:02,499 --> 00:53:59,630 we'll we'll make the well before we go 1214 00:54:04,150 --> 00:54:02,509 into the owl and the so next week the 1215 00:54:05,890 --> 00:54:04,160 previews we saw some of the previews we 1216 00:54:09,130 --> 00:54:05,900 saw the drone so it looks like we're 1217 00:54:10,870 --> 00:54:09,140 gonna have our first drone interactions 1218 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:10,880 here I think people have been wanting to 1219 00:54:17,229 --> 00:54:15,890 see that for a super long time and were 1220 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:17,239 they setting up like another transmitter 1221 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:18,410 I believe they were setting up some 1222 00:54:21,999 --> 00:54:20,450 transmitters or something something they 1223 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:22,009 were setting up some kind of power I 1224 00:54:26,529 --> 00:54:23,890 think it was some kind of power source 1225 00:54:28,539 --> 00:54:26,539 which I think people are gonna be 1226 00:54:32,319 --> 00:54:28,549 interested in seeing this up it's kind 1227 00:54:35,979 --> 00:54:32,329 of cool and now I guess the big the big 1228 00:54:38,019 --> 00:54:35,989 tease the big news is next week we're 1229 00:54:42,910 --> 00:54:38,029 going to have the one and only dragon 1230 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:42,920 joining us for our third episode so you 1231 00:54:47,289 --> 00:54:45,650 know you have questions please send them 1232 00:54:50,319 --> 00:54:47,299 in I know dragons gonna be interested in 1233 00:54:53,079 --> 00:54:50,329 talking to people um he's looking 1234 00:54:54,489 --> 00:54:53,089 forward to it and you know I think this 1235 00:54:56,140 --> 00:54:54,499 would be a good start to kind of slowly 1236 00:54:58,229 --> 00:54:56,150 get the cast in here and you know see if 1237 00:55:03,220 --> 00:54:58,239 how many guys we can get on here and and 1238 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:03,230 talk to and let you guys grill and yeah 1239 00:55:08,410 --> 00:55:05,690 be nice no of course of course in a 1240 00:55:10,900 --> 00:55:08,420 respectful way of course yeah yes so 1241 00:55:13,509 --> 00:55:10,910 basic drills dragon in a respectful way 1242 00:55:15,789 --> 00:55:13,519 what should we what should i prep them 1243 00:55:17,289 --> 00:55:15,799 for what should we tell them you know 1244 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:17,299 what do people want to know most all the 1245 00:55:30,279 --> 00:55:27,599 who are the aliens and what did they do 1246 00:55:34,390 --> 00:55:30,289 know so yeah next week dragon will be 1247 00:55:35,859 --> 00:55:34,400 joining us and but until then you know 1248 00:55:38,559 --> 00:55:35,869 this is this has been great you guys 1249 00:55:40,599 --> 00:55:38,569 again I really appreciate you doing this 1250 00:55:41,530 --> 00:55:40,609 with me and you know bringing this to 1251 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:41,540 people 1252 00:55:45,070 --> 00:55:42,650 without you guys I wouldn't be able to 1253 00:55:47,830 --> 00:55:45,080 do this so thank you this is our 1254 00:55:51,100 --> 00:55:47,840 pleasure yeah we love doing this and you 1255 00:55:54,250 --> 00:55:51,110 know it for people who I mean this show 1256 00:55:57,370 --> 00:55:54,260 could be consumed in multiple ways it's 1257 00:55:59,020 --> 00:55:57,380 both a video and an audio show so 1258 00:56:00,190 --> 00:55:59,030 depending on how you're listening to the 1259 00:56:02,380 --> 00:56:00,200 show you might not have known that 1260 00:56:04,930 --> 00:56:02,390 there's an other way to consume the show 1261 00:56:08,230 --> 00:56:04,940 but it is an audio podcast which you can 1262 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:08,240 get and subscribe to on both Apple 1263 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:10,490 podcasts and Google podcasts now and 1264 00:56:16,300 --> 00:56:13,130 it's also it's available as a video show 1265 00:56:21,580 --> 00:56:16,310 on YouTube excellent but we look 1266 00:56:23,590 --> 00:56:21,590 prettier check out the YouTube channel 1267 00:56:28,420 --> 00:56:23,600 some of us look prettier on the the 1268 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:28,430 audio podcast that would be me no the I 1269 00:56:33,970 --> 00:56:31,810 know so I wanted to put out there to 1270 00:56:35,470 --> 00:56:33,980 that and you know it's funny I've 1271 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:35,480 already had people reaching out to me on 1272 00:56:41,620 --> 00:56:39,890 Twitter that are they have interesting 1273 00:56:43,540 --> 00:56:41,630 interesting stories interesting 1274 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:43,550 locations like I've already gotten a 1275 00:56:49,690 --> 00:56:46,930 handful of people just kind of randomly 1276 00:56:51,610 --> 00:56:49,700 hi you know I'm doing this you know it's 1277 00:56:53,140 --> 00:56:51,620 like wait what you know they I've been 1278 00:56:54,730 --> 00:56:53,150 looking for you for six years so thank 1279 00:56:58,030 --> 00:56:54,740 you know we're all of a sudden you're 1280 00:56:59,350 --> 00:56:58,040 showing up now so please you know keep 1281 00:57:00,490 --> 00:56:59,360 all this stuff coming like we want to 1282 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:00,500 communicate we want to hear from people 1283 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:02,690 you know I think that this is a great 1284 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:06,010 opportunity because this has been such a 1285 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:08,810 secretive place for so long that it's 1286 00:57:12,430 --> 00:57:10,850 now we're we're kind of opening the door 1287 00:57:14,290 --> 00:57:12,440 I mean we've got people from the cast 1288 00:57:15,910 --> 00:57:14,300 coming on I mean I'm I'm here to answer 1289 00:57:17,260 --> 00:57:15,920 questions as well like let's share this 1290 00:57:18,990 --> 00:57:17,270 information that's kind of open the door 1291 00:57:22,180 --> 00:57:19,000 together and let everyone kind of see 1292 00:57:24,190 --> 00:57:22,190 you know and as long as Brandon wants to 1293 00:57:27,130 --> 00:57:24,200 keep doing it then you know great let's 1294 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:27,140 let's go for the ride man I'm in you 1295 00:57:36,550 --> 00:57:32,650 know so anyway that's enough email so I 1296 00:57:40,060 --> 00:57:36,560 cannot stress enough that I don't have 1297 00:57:41,770 --> 00:57:40,070 answers to your telepathic dreams that 1298 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:41,780 you are having because I'm getting a lot 1299 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:54,650 of emails right now it kind of questions 1300 00:57:56,850 --> 00:57:54,970 you 1301 00:58:01,020 --> 00:57:56,860 dragon can we can ask dragon maybe he 1302 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:01,030 has haters you know maybe maybe does he 1303 00:58:06,390 --> 00:58:03,970 knows all yes well we'll see it I'm 1304 00:58:08,790 --> 00:58:06,400 gonna be curious to see where where he's 1305 00:58:10,350 --> 00:58:08,800 gonna be calling in from so that might 1306 00:58:16,070 --> 00:58:10,360 be another surprise that I think people 1307 00:58:19,020 --> 00:58:16,080 will really enjoy the scenery good stuff 1308 00:58:20,700 --> 00:58:19,030 calling in from homestead too and he's 1309 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:20,710 gonna give us a little surprise 1310 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:23,290 Oh that'd be crazy yeah that's one scary 1311 00:58:26,430 --> 00:58:24,850 place man I'm all set well in the 1312 00:58:33,390 --> 00:58:26,440 background and it's actually just Eric's 1313 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:33,400 stomach with a sandwich well this is 1314 00:58:35,850 --> 00:58:34,810 great guys thank you very much and so 1315 00:58:38,790 --> 00:58:35,860 next week 1316 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:38,800 you know same same thing we'll have 1317 00:58:44,190 --> 00:58:41,050 dragon and please enjoy the show Tuesday 1318 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:44,200 night at ten o'clock on the 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